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Re: [lojban] More Alice



In a message dated 6/3/2001 9:27:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:


Solemn "Often-Laugher" isactually not bad at all, since it fits
well with the cyclothymic nature of the Mock Turtle, and also the
"Laughing and Grief" taught by the Classical master.


Yes, getting better.  How is "Laughing and Grief" going by the way.

<>Is it time for another round on what Lojban poetry will be like, given that
>neither rhyme nor rhythm are likely to play major roles?  In any case, a
>dance would be a bad candidate for an early contribution.

Why? I don't understand the defeatism.>

What defeatism?  Defeatism assumes  that nothing will work. Iwant to see
some successes and that comes about by starting with things that can work,
rather than (the Loglan/Lojban habit) "impossible" projects.  No one will be
happier than I if one of those "impossible" projects comes off, but thedeck
is tacked against it, and the price of chosing those as targets is losing
people out of frustrration or disgust.  Dances are bad choices because they,
unlike Lojban, have very tightly controlled rhythmic patterns.  Wecan
reporduce those patterns in Lojban but often at the cost of sense or even
grammaticality. Eventually, we will work out a way of doing some of these
thing, but we haven't yet.  Do try, but don't complain if we pointout that
you haven't made it.  The Quadrille has four bars to the line, each bar four
beats with the stress on the last beat.  The chorus is slightly different,
three iambs and a dactyl.