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Re: [lojban] Re: kona, but not the coffee



Sorry about this, but I seem to get stuff all out of order: originals
longafter comments, for one annoying example.
In a message dated 6/17/2001 7:04:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
araizen@newmail.net writes:


i mi puzu stidi le du'u to ji'a ba'anai ro spuda po'u la xorxes po'o
pe'i cu tugni mi toi zo ko sinxa la'e zo do poi se tcita lo selcni
valsi to ra'u lei valsi poi me'o ebu cu pamoi lerfu toi noi so'iroi
na'e se cusku i pe'i filseljmirai fa le du'u cusku le selcni valsi uke
zo do jikau zo ko i le nu pilno le selcni valsi cu sucta i mapti le nu
tavla fi le tavla to zo mi e zo mi'o toi e le selta'a to zo do e zo ko
toi e le nalsnu to zo ko'a e le simsa toi i zo ko cu mapti le nu tavla
fi le selta'a po'o


But 1) {ko} is specific to imperative mode: its primary use is exactly
coextensive with that mode.
      2) the referent of {ko} defaults to that of {do} but {ko} is
assignable, as we learned in an earlier thread, to any nameable group or
object

I'm not sure I follow the rest: how does {ko} fit talking about the topic of
conversation only?

<Subj: [lojban] Re: kona, but not the coffee
Date: 6/17/2001 7:04:20 PM Central Daylight Time
From:    araizen@newmail.net (Adam Raizen)
To:    lojban@yahoogroups.com




la rab spir cusku di'e

> On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:33:08AM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote:
> > One way to mark
> > directives in Lojban is to use {ko} ({e'o} and {e'u} also work).
>
> One thing that distresses me is to see {e'o} and {e'u} used in place
of {ko}
> just because {ko} seems too "harsh".>

{e'u} and {e'o} seem to have different (but not clear how) functions from
imperatives, but functioons that can be *combined with* imperatives to
"soften" them.  That whole range of directive language needs analysis, but I
think it has to wait until there is some clear Lojban usage to analyze --
English is clearly NOT going to help here.