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Re: [lojban] Rafsi in cmene: way off track



Since we are talking about dates and the like, I'd like to say a few words
about Julian.  Calendars are a mess; of the hundred or so that have enjoyed
some prominence somewhere somewhen, half a dozen are still in common use and
translating among them is harder than figuring out the time in Delhi.  Due to
some quirks Mesopotamian mythology, all the survivors pretty much agree that
a year has about 12 months, but they differ on the relation between months
and moons, as well as how long a month is, when a month starts, when a year
starts, what to do when the calendar gets out of synch with the heavens and
what counts as out of synch.  Calculating the time between to dates on any of
these is a pain as well.  Of course, there are cute little programs for doing
this -- and translating between claendars as well (including some no one uses
any more, like the Mayan?).  Such programs use Julian dates for the various
calendar dates, as do astronomers everywhere.  A Julian date consists of the
number of full dates and the fraction since 12 noon GMT on January 1, -4713
(a quirk of a different mythology).  So, at the moment it is 2452099.52 and
rapidly changing further fractions, corresponding to July 8, 2001, 19:32 CDT.
 And this time is 1) the same everywhere in the world, 2) given in a single
system, not varying through bases 28,29, 30 or 31, 12, 10, 24, 60, 60, maybe
7,  and take your pick -- in Julian precision is indefinitely extendable. 3)
the system starts at 0 (the heretofore mentioned New Year's Day at noon), so
all those muddles go.

Of course, there are some down sides.  The date looks long, although it
contains fewer characters than a standard civil date: 07/08/01 -- but / looks
short.  And the time side is inconvenient (unless everyone used it), since
(as is so often in time measurements) nothing correlates very well with
hours, minutes and seconds.  An hour is .041[6 of a day, so a minute is
.00069[4 and a second .0000115[740.  And, of course, there is no regular
coordination between day numbers and natural phenomena, days of the week or
whatever else might be important to farmers, mechants, priests, etc. etc.  On
the other hand, periodic astronomical events recur in regular ways, since
they are at the base of the system.  
Hey!  Captain's log: Star date---.