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Re: [lojban] Set of answers encore



In a message dated 9/27/2001 2:23:07 PM Central Daylight Time, rob@twcny.rr.com writes:


>   la djan krici da poi go ke'a jetnu gi la bil klama

"John believes something such that it is true iff Bill goes to it"?


Well, without the "to it," which isn't there and doesn't make much sense.

araizen:
<How about 'jinvi', 'djuno', 'krici', 'tugni', 'sarxe', etc. all
default to extensional, and then the intensional sense can be had with
a tanru or lujvo using 'pensi' (or maybe 'te sidbo'). If x both
extensionally believes that y and also thinks about or forms an idea
about y then x intensionally believes that y, no?>
Not quite, the idea has to be in some sense isomorphic to some version of what the person believes extensionally -- and working out the sense can be a bit of a pain, especially when identity/equivalence gets to play a part.