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Re: [lojban] fancu




la pycyn cusku di'e

Now we are getting down to what is perhaps merely
an unclarity, what you seem to say is that {le du'u makau mamta la bil} is a
set of propositions, in each of which (which suggests there is only one)
{makau} is assigned Bill's actual mother.

I might agree, if you allow me to make two changes: {le'i du'u
makau mamta la bil} is the set, and {le du'u ...} is "each member
of the set...". I think you often talk of "the set" when you mean
"each of the members of the set", which can be confusing. This is
just the standard {le'i broda}/{le broda} distinction.

The second thing is that it doesn't have to be the actual mother.
(The proposition might even be, in an extreme case, {le du'u noda
mamta la bil}.) The proposition or propositions need not be true.

Similarly, {le du'u makau mamta
ce'u} is a function that assigns to each replacement of {ce'u} a (set of)
proposition(s) with makau replaced by the actual mother of the replacement
for {ce'u}.

With the changes above, yes. (Not necessarily the actual mother, and
not the set but each of the members of the set of propositions.)

You said
"In my view {makau} stands for the value that the relationship gives
when the ce'u place is filled. {makau} will take a value from x3
for each value taken from x2 and placed in {ce'u}."

Now, if you did not mean that to mean what I have taken it to mean, then you
have come over to some version -- I don't yet quite know which -- of
set-of-answers theory and welcome aboard.

Yes, I have always been on the set-of-answers camp, though I've
never been able to give And a suitable formalization.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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