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Re: [lojban] "knowledge as to who saw who" readings



In a message dated 10/6/2001 6:06:27 PM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:


SA3a. la djon djuno le du'u makau viska makau

(i.e. every one of the relevant answers) but that wouldn't
say that John knows that they are all the relevant answers
there are. Now this:

SA3b. la djon djuno tu'odu'u ri djuno ro jetnu du'u makau viska makau

And SA3b is pretty likely false, since it is unlikely that he knows -- even believes, even conceives -- all the true answers.  He may know enough for completeness, and that would be the way I would tend to go {la djan djuno rau du'u makau viska makau}.
{le} opens too many complications -- things that are not answers and questions about whether John knows them as such or the speaker, and so on.