In a message dated 11/1/2001 5:28:48 PM Central Standard Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:
How did prototype chat move from {loi}, where it lived for a couple I would have thought that was enough to get rid of Mr. Rabbit for once and all. Wrong, I suppose. It's a cute picture, but doesn't seem to ahve any intereting content. Thanks for the explanation though. <The correspondence with Loglan goes something like this: Lojban: lo le loi("mass") lo'e lo'i("set") Loglan: -- le leu("set") lo("mass") ---- Loglan doesn't need Lojban {lo} because it uses bare quantifiers for that (Lojban does this too, so we don't really need it either).> This assumes a certain reading of {lo}; is it guaranteed? (So many things have been put up for grabs lately, it is wise to check -- though xorxes may not be the right one to ask, being a major putter-upper). <In Loglan "sets" can carry logs, in Lojban "masses" do this.> Oh dear, did that one finally win out? Pity (but dead, so no harmdone). <Loglan's "mass" is Mr Rabbit, which corresponds to Lojban's {lo'e}.> Did that one win finally too -- more pity. Happily the claim is not establsihed (to put it mildly) for Lojban. <Loglan is blessed by not having a gadri for mathematical sets.> Strange blessing, to get rid of the one gadri we know anything solid about -- and the one all the others depend on. <{le} is the same for both.> True enough, and aren't we beginning to see (even more) reasons to regret it. |