Re: [lojban] normal vs average

[pycyn@aol.com]

In a message dated 11/13/2001 6:02:29 PM Central Standard Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:

>Well, now that that is decided -- {cnano} for empirical/statistical notions
>and {fadni} for (dare I say it) normative ones -- what is the next
>question?

How is it used?

I know how to use {fadni}:

 le va tricu cu fadni le ka ce'u mitre makau kei lei tricu be le
 se tricu be vo'a
 That tree is normal in how high it is among trees of its species.

x1 is a member of x3, x2 is a property (a function actually) of x1
and also of the members of x3.

But how do we use {cnano}?

Well,
cnano = x1 [value] is a norm/average in property/amount x2 (ka/ni) among x3(s) (set) by standard x4

So x1 is a number, probably a {ni} in most cases, x2 and x3 are the same as for {fadni}, x4 probably talks about how statistics were obtained, maybe something about how {ni} were assigned, if that is not obvious.  Putting a normal object in x1 probably requires {tu'a}, to raise out of the abstraction (though it might not be a genuine abstraction in the case of, say, salary).  The {tu'a} may be one reason for the {lo'e} circumlocution for many of these discussions.