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Re: [lojban] Romany and Romanian



In a message dated 12/6/2001 6:20:21 PM Central Standard Time, phma@oltronics.net writes:


How do we distinguish Romany from Romanian (besides {tsingaro}, of course)?


How did we get 'em confused in the first place? One is eccentric Romance, the eccentric Indic and, though I suppose the Dom came through Roumania on their way to Western Europe, I don't think they lingered there more than most places (til next week's pogrom).  As far as I ever heard (never in ideals circumstances) the initial consonant in the Gypsy selfname is a retroflex voiced stop, whence the d/r variation.  Maybe we can call them Doms (Indians regularly take English alveolars as retroflex since they are back of the native detnals).