[moved off of the beginners list; it no longer belongs there] Okay. Irrespective of how you intepret {finpe je mirli}: 1. Would you say that {lo finpe .e lo mirli cu finpe je mirli}? 2a. If so, since .e is rather well defined, would you then accept that {lo finpe cu finpe je mirli}? 2b. If not, what does {lo finpe je mirli} refer to? -- la rab.spir noi sarji zo gumri