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Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Non-logical AND in Tanru?



In a message dated 2/15/2002 11:03:43 PM Central Standard Time, thanatos@dim.com writes:


Well, if {no da broda} is true, what meaning could {mi broda klama}
possibly have?  If there weren't any real, imagined, or theoretical
things that were broda, what meaning would broda have?  And then what of
{mi broda klama}?


I confess I haven't really thought this through (as I said, this just hasn't been an issue generally -- thanks for raising it).  I think it may depend on the nature of {broda} and the relation to {klama}.  If {broda} is adverbial, then the thing that is {broda} is probably something like {le nu klama}, and so on.  When I wrote that before, I think I had such cases in mind.  But the ones I was mainly focusing on were ones like {cmalu xanto} where the object that is the {cmalu} cannot be isolated from the {xanto}, without problems; that is, the broda does have its places filled implicitly but not in isolation.  I took the isolation claim to be the likely next step in your reasoning and wanted to stop it beforehand.