Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautologies

[John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>]

Jorge Llambias scripsit:

> xod: x1 is a name and x4 is the function
> cowan: x1 is the function and x4 is an expression (a text)
> lojbab: x1 is the function and x4 is something like li f(x)=x*2,
> which is not very clear what it is because equations
> are not numbers.
> pc: x1=x4 both are the function, with the proviso that good style
> requires to use a more helpful description in x4.
> 
> I much prefer pc's version over any of the others, although even
> better for me would be to drop x4 altoghether.

I don't see how that can work. Given that x1 is a function (rejecting
xod's view), an abstract object, you need some x4 to tell you which
function it is. A function is not just any mapping between the
elements of the domain and the range, it is some particular mapping.
such as "successor", "ancestor", "solely owned by", or what have you.

Consider the set of clock numbers: {12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11}.
Use this as the domain and range of two functions: "an hour later than"
and "an hour earlier than". Without an x4, you can't tell which is
which.

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