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Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] Quantifiers, Existential Import, and all that stuff



In a message dated 3/8/2002 10:02:24 AM Central Standard Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:


><A- ro [lo ro] broda
>E- no [lo ro] broda
>I+ su'o [lo ro] broda = su'o lo su'o broda
>O+ me'iro [lo ro] broda = me'iro lo su'o broda
>
>A+ ro lo su'o broda
>E+ no lo su'o broda
>I- naku no lo su'o broda
>O- naku ro lo su'o broda


I wish you'd make up your mind  whether it is the things with internal {su'o} that are + or the things that are internal {ro}, the shifting back and forth makes this hard to follow without constantly checking the list again, which is more effort than crazinesses deserves.  But, if  {su'o broda cu brode} = {su'o lo su'o broda cu brode} then {naku su'o broda cu brode} must be also {naku su'o lo su'o broda cu brode} .  But one of these is patently - and the other + or else the principle here is totally arbitrary (i.e., no principle at all).  Or maybe there is one but it is so far from Lojban and logic, that I just can't see it.  I do wish you would explain how it works (on loccan3, perhaps).