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Re: [lojban] More about quantifiers



In a message dated 3/11/2002 6:42:14 AM Central Standard Time, phma@webjockey.net writes:


> Traditionally, "All swans are white" (used by Aristotle, but now known
> to be empirically false) was read as having existential import, as
> you say.

.i 1mai ganai roda nebdatka gi da blabi
.i 2mai ro nebdatka cu blabi


To be on the safe side, {roda zo'u ganai da nebdatka gi da blabi} (the quantifier inside the conditional but with scope over the whole leads sometimes to unexpected results). The first is, I think, universally agreed to be non-importing.  The second is also, according to xorxes, is importing according to me (and, I would say, Lojban generally). 


<.i .eipe'i de jajgau ro terpli be zo ro .e zo da .e zo ga .e zo'e be'o .e le
xelfanva pa papri>

That might be handy, but would not cast a lot of light here.  For one thing, most cases would be indeterminate as to whether import was intended or not.