In a message dated 4/3/2002 4:29:08 PM Central Standard Time, araizen@newmail.net writes:
Subj:Re: [lojban] ce'u once again
Date:4/3/2002 4:29:08 PM Central Standard Time
From:araizen@newmail.net
To:lojban@yahoogroups.com
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la pycyn. cusku di'e
> > No it doesn't. 'zmadu' requires a unary property in the 3rd place.
> >
> Why? Why not say "is to the left of"?
I'm not sure what you are suggesting should be replaced by 'is to the left
of', but 'zmadu' compares the result of applying the x3 property to x1 with
the result of applying it to x2 and claims that the former 'is more than'
the latter.
The best I can come up with for a binary property in x3 of 'zmadu' is that
the binary property would specify the relationship between x1 and x2, maybe
something like 'la fred. la djordj. zmadu le ka ce'u ralju le cecmu be
ce'u' --> 'Fred is more than George in being the head of his community.'
This might be a cute trick, but it's very different from the normal use of
'zmadu' and in any case isn't a way to interpret the sentence this
discussion is based on. ('lenu la fred. bilma cu zmadu lenu la djordj. bilma
kei leka ce'u rinka leka ce'u ruble') In that sentence, the second argument
for the binary property isn't itself a sumti of the main bridi, and so at
best it's very confusing.
I suppose you mean {la fred la djordj cu zmadu le du'u ce'u ralju le cecmu be cy}, which is technically a 1-place predicate. If you do mean the second {ce'u} then it is a free floating variable that makes the whole rather obscure, being essentially universal (relevance conditions assumed) -- but what I had in mind. What is the trick it is supposed to cutely do?
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