In a message dated 4/10/2002 1:46:41 PM Central Daylight Time, araizen@newmail.net writes:I agree that logically the two constructions are identical, but this But of course one expects that the grammatical structure of a Logical Language is dictated by the logic, not by whatever it is that leads to these anomalies. It is to be expected that, for example, nominal bridis have (I would say "retain") some marks that sentential and predicate bridis have lost (or conversely, of course), but beyond that, it is hard to see the point of the distinctions and for the different restrictions applied. <. In particular, since you can say 'ko'a poi broda gi'e brode' but not 'le broda gi'e brode', I think that the two structures are significantly different.> Why, so it does work out! They are certainly different (we have two cases so far today) but what is the significance of the difference? That is -- minimally -- what forces these differences to be a part of the grammar rather than allowing the apparently simpler direct rule (I have been asking this question in one form or another for 26 years now, without ever getting a reasonable answer, so don't worry if you can't think of one)? <If we were designing Lojban from scratch, I would support putting an entire bridi after 'le', but we're not and that can't be changed now.> Well, we would leave off (or replace with LE) the first term (or a selected term,, using {ke'a} or the like). I know it can't be changed (it is perhaps the deepest point in Lojban) and don't really want it changed. I just want it explained. |