| In a message dated 11/5/2002 6:43:37 PM Central Standard Time, lojban-out@lojban.org writes: << This isn't a nit-pick, this is a fundamental semantic change from the >> << Because these are fundamental changes to the semantics of the language as used by people who actually converse in it. >> Sort of the opposite of M. Jourdain: you have discovered that you were NOT speaking Lojban all along. It is, alas, a common experience and one there will be more of as more people go off trying to learn Lojban in its fullness. But still, that virtually every sumti contains at least one quantifier and that the order of quantifiers is significant for meaning seems to me too obvious and oft talked about -- both in CLL and on the various lists -- be be something reasonably missed. Where did things go wrong in the teaching process -- and in the learning? What did you think happened with sumti and quantifiers before you were brought to the current realization? Hopefully, this is all corrigible in your usage (I'm afraid that it is too late to do much about the system of Lojban -- though many try and some seem to succeed from time to time). |