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Re: [lojban] Re: Medieval

Yanis Batura wrote:

On 17.10.2006, 6:44, Bob LeChevalier wrote:

komfo,amonan wrote:
On 10/16/06, *Yanis Batura* <ybatura@mail.ru <mailto:ybatura@mail.ru>> wrote: 

    > Checking the Wikipedia article, it looks like it's a European
   period, so
    > {ronmijycedra} might work.
Hmmm... I needed that word for talking about ninjas and samurais... :)
According to Wikipedia's History of Japan article there is a period called the "Japanese Middle Ages". So perhaps {ponmijycedra}.
Rather than copying the metaphor used in other languages, I think the common feature of the "middle ages" of both cultures was feudalism (and indeed, the boundaries of the era tend to be associated with the beginning and end of a feudal nobility (Yanis may have an opinion on this, since in Russia the feudal nobility essentially persisted up until 
the 20th century).




So come up with a lujvo for feudalism or feudal nobility [...]



Coining a lujvo for feudalism is *much* more difficult than for Middle
ages. :)


Not really
lacnuptruci'e
tumnoltruci'e
emphasize different aspects of feudalism. You'd want to choose one that describes the society. European feudalism focused on the power nobles acquired from land. The chivalric concept of feudalism was a system of promise and reliance - service in exchange for protection. Another version of feudalism would be based on the existence of serfdom (land-bound servants system?), which would certainly be important to Russian feudalism, but I don't know whether it applies to Oriental feudalism.
The important thing is to think about the concept you want to express and what Lojban words point towards that concept, turning to how it is expressed in other languages only to break down a mental block at coming up with an expression. 

lojbab