On 10/31/06, HeliodoR <exitconsole@gmail.com> wrote:
> removal of ambiguous gIsmu [...]
What's the point in removing words and narrowing the vocabulary?
I'm for removing words, but Not for narrowing the vocabulary.
It's just we have a lot of words, that are just insulting, like cultural gIsmu. What about the Hungarians?
It's not going to narrow your vocabulary to take out synonyms like lOjbo, we already have la lOjban. no point in having a cultural gIsmu too. Take the example of sOfto. English doesn't have a verb for every nationality, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find a language with such an odd concept.
If we take out things like sOfto, we might as well take out things like clIno. What will we do when lion's are extinct? Or we live on another planet? Might as well get rid of the ambiguity sooner rather than later.
> change fa fe fi, to pa re ci [...]
That's quite impossible:
{barda fi lo mlatu} means "it's big compared to a cat", whereas
{barda ci lo mlatu} means "it's big in the property of three cats" (nonsensical enough).
Thank you very much for pointing that out, I concede
> modify lUjvo to make them unambiguous [...]
Um... In what way are they ambiguous?
Meant to say lUjvo would be modified, as they would have different rAfsi, making them less ambiguous (as it would be clear whether they come from an ambiguous rAfsi, like rArna). Also with the new rAfsi system, It would be possible to perhaps at some future date, extend lUjvo to explicitly state in the lUjvo which arguments from functional rAfsi it will be borrowing.
onomatopoeia, we have to have them, how else can you tell a knock knock joke.ui.u'i?
You're ready to change the language... to make it appropriate... for knock-knock jokes? O_o
No, not just for knock knock jokes, but if our aim is to be at least as expressive as all other languages in the world, we should have some way of expressing sound.
standard way to describe shapes
What do you mean exactly?
I was thinking of having maybe dimension modifiers, to indicate how many dimensions a shape is in. Anyways here is an example.
say the word for geometric shape will be sOfto(tArmi seems to be something else completly, something related to Plato?) but with a different place structure:
x1 is a geometric polygon with x2 (# of vertices) x3([set] with lengths of sides, can use combination of ordered/unordered, probably add in shapes you connect to here as well) x4 (in dimension(pa,re,ci,vo) will probably have to make a distinction between time and space, as is in the Standard Model)
so a equalateral triangle would be
sOfto li ci lo'i pa li re
a rectangle with sides of 1:2 ratio would be
sOfto li vo lo'i pa ce re li re
and so on. I dono about circles, maybe need another gIsmu, but if i recall correctly it can be described using the same manner.
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