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Re: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination



Yanis Batura wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: "Hugh O'Byrne" <hobyrne@gmail.com>
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 21:27:09 -0500
Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination

Wow.  I spend time addressing point after point, and then find the bullseye
which makes all the rest irrelavent.

On 11/9/06, Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
If my expressions get people so pissed off at me that they don't want to
talk about LOkadin any more, then my purposes will be served.
There you have it, from the horse's mouth, folks.  Bob will disregard the
rules of the language, he will even disregard the welfare of this community,
just so that he can have his way.  "It's my ball, and you can't play with
it!"  Fine, Bob, either stop pretending Lojban is a community effort, or
stop pretending your ball is Lojban.

I don't know the history. It's interesting. Wasn't JCB telling the same "It's my ball, and you can't play with it" and, as a result, Lojban appeared?

Maybe. IMO this whole discussion has been blown way out of proportion. But to the point of your post, Lojban may not like tinkerers too much, but there's nothing wrong with developing another language based on it. There was jimc's -gua!spi, not directly based on Lo[jg][bl]an but with similar underpinnings in logic... And I think Cheqli or some spelling like that? Go forth and make a logical language. Lojban definitely has its quirks, nobody will deny that. Every brilliant project winds up this way after a few years, with people thinking how they would re-do things if it were done more cleanly from day one. The projects you come up with, if they last that long, will probably also wind up this way. But you might find something interesting along the way, as we found with Lojban, for all its problems.

~mark