Re: [lojban] is there a phonologist in the house?

[John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>]

Going on half a century ago, Peter Ladefoged's sound spectograms were claimed to show regular (and
cross linguistic) juncture features, but I don't know whether these were available to any but the
finest grained analysis (or whether they were even real). Lojban does not generally need these; it
does need them -- or some substitute for them -- around names, as matters now stand.  the
situation is complicated by what we have taken as replacements: pauses -- which can occur almost
anywhere and of which a machine cannot ditinguish o0bligatory ones from incidentals -- and stress
-- which has identical problems. Using a clear glottal stop will help with the first of these,
since it does not otherwise occur in Lojban (we hope -- idiolects vary)but it does reaise again
the question whehter people can produce it and can learn to do so in a regular way (of course, I
am being obstructionist because I like the /iy/-/uy/ approach).

--- Seth Gordon <sethg@ropine.com> wrote:

> The whole discussion of mandatory pauses and audio-visual isomorphism
> reminds me of how speech-recognition software, back when I was paying
> attention to such things, required ... you ... to ... pause ... between
> ... words in order to understand what you were saying.
> 
> If I understand correctly, 21st-century speech-recognition software does
> not require this.  Are they doing this by simply matching the speech
> stream against some kind of dictionary in order to guess where the word
> breaks are, or are there subtle changes in pronounciation that people
> use to mark word boundaries even in connected speech?
> 
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