Re: [lojban] Further lujvo hunt: Class society/classless society

[John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>]

{jikca} is probably more to the point than {jecta} since the society need not be involved in
governing at all (the state may have withered away, for example, or the classes may be iirrelevant
to governance - e.g., India).  But, of course, that is about members of the society, not the
society itself, nor is there a place for the society involved.  But the sort of class of interest
is clearly {jikca klesi}, social classes -- now just to find the society. The grouping problem is
harder if you want to be precise, but you could just say "social class lacking society" (if you
could say "society") by inserting {claxu}. Putting in the finickies to get the {nal} modifying
just {klesi} would make the whole unwieldy, I suspect. Not that the grouping of a four place lujvo
is transparent to begin with.
--- Einar Faanes <einar@bommelibom.com> wrote:

> coi rodo
> 
> I'm continuing to try to construct lujvo. And now it is "class society"
> and "classless society" which is under the toolkit. This is what I've
> come up with so far. Would be nice if people which know this far better
> than me take a look at it.
> 
> Class society
> 
> klesi: k1 (mass/si'o) is a class/category/subgroup/subset within k2 with
> defining property k3 (ka)
> jecta: j1 is a polity/state governing territory/domain j2;
> [government/territory relationship]
> 
> (klesi jecta)
> k2=j1, k3 is removed
> 
> kleje'a: j1=k2 is a polity/state with class/category/subgroup k1
> governing territory j2
> 
> Classless society would probably be {nalkleje'a}: j1=k2 is not a
> polity/state with class/category/subgroup k1 governing territory j2.
> >From the definition it feels wrong since it IS a political community,
> but without classes. Is there a way to negate just {klesi}, or is there
> other solutions.
> 
> mu'omi'e .ainar.
> 
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