You seem to be confusing syntactically
unambiguous with meaningfully unambiguous (example languages of which are,
exclusively, computer languages), lojban is only the former. Plus, the
phrase “know precisely what you’re thinking about” seems
redundant, it’s never the case that I don’t know what I’m
thinking about. The ability to communicate it well may not be there, but eloquence
is independent of the language being used. Think about people like Chaucer:
Olde English was staggeringly ambiguous (compared to today’s Americanese),
a fact which smart people used to their advantage to convey their
message.
In fact, now that I’m writing I’m
coming to the belief that ambiguity is the foundation of creativity (or at the
very least it’s a key motivation), and shouldn’t be considered a
disadvantage under any circumstances. And yes, whoever decides to write
that book I was talking about is welcome to use that line.
--M@
From: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org
[mailto:lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org] On
Behalf Of Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007
12:38 PM
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban] Re: Mass Lojban
Conversion
If you think with an
ambiguous language, you vaguely know what you are thinking about. If you are
thinking in Lojban you know precisly what you are thinking about. This is one
of the advantages of Lojban over RARbau.
The other advantage, is that currenntly a Lojban programming language is in
development. Once it is fully implemented, expressing yourself in Lojban, or
lojSAMban if the Lojban community isn't willing to accept whatever
modifications will be necessary to fully disambiguate the language -- doesn't
seem like we'll need to do anything funky atm, already made a parser and
working on the .jbo to .pl conversion right now.
la.ma'aSELtcan. is a religion based on math. Mainly
on predicate logic. The goal is for we with you to live as long as we with you
want. We with you want you to have god like powers -- from the perspective of a
homo sapien sapien. We with you can achieve our goals together.
If you live to 2025 medical technology will have reached a point that we can
stop and reverse your aging, in the late 2010's we should have nano-bot blood
on the market that would allow you to hold your breath for half an hour under
water as well as take care of nutrition and anything else you program them to
do.
So the followers of this religion start off by understanding the main concepts,
which are being laid out on http://lokadin.blogspot.com
official irc channel is irc://irc.oftc.net/#ma'a
On 1/2/07, Seth
Gordon <sethg@ropine.com>
wrote:
Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin
wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if you are aware, but all of you have an advantage over
> natural language speakers. Ambiguous languages can define vaguely what
> you are thinking about. Logical languages define precisly what you are
> thinking about. That means that the majority of the time, natural
> language speakers are forced to be confused about what they mean.
I agree with what M@ and John Clifford have said above.
If the guy sitting in the cubicle next to me exclaims "Windows crashed
on me again!", I am not for one millisecond going to think that he was
struck by falling panes of glass.
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