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[lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Silly things to say in Lojban
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- Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Silly things to say in Lojban
- From: "Michael Turniansky" <mturniansky@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:44:27 -0500
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On Feb 12, 2008 11:54 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 February 2008 15:24, Michael Turniansky wrote:
> > .i gerna fi lu ganra grana garna li'u
> > ("A broad-stick railing" is grammatical)
>
> I had to look that up, as usually we say "gendra" to say that a phrase is
> grammatical. The distinction is that "gerna fi do'i" means that there is a
> grammar that governs do'i, whereas "do'i gerna" means that do'i is correct
> according to the grammar.
>
(For your last, I think you meant "do'i gendra". "do'i gerna" means
that an utterance IS a grammar/grammatical rule, which is pretty much
a meaningless sentece.) In any case, yes, I meant "grammatical" in
the wider sense of "is governed by the rules of a grammar" (definition
1 of "grammatical" in MWC) rather than "correct by the rules of a
grammar" (def. 2). I thank you, though, for clarifying the
distinction for those who might have been confused.
>
> .i vajni ke vanju jivna javni
> (Important to cottabists, that is.)
Okay, now it's my turn to say, huh?? "Cottabist" isn't in any of the
onelook dictionaries nor on www.websters-online.dictionary.org, which
even has some lojban words on it! it only has five hits on google,
three of which are identical, and two of which are German. I assume
from context it means an something like oenophile or vintner?
(EDIT: Ah!!! www.oedilf.com comes to my rescue. It must mean a
participant in a cottabus?)
> .i le nakni bakni cu bunre xunre
>
(I like this one, because it's something that might actually be
uttered in the real world!)
--gejyspa
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