[lojban] Re: Joining the Ranks of the BPFK: The LRWTF

["Matt Arnold" <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>]

Timo,
thanks for your initiative on this. Due to other commitments, I won't
be able to help until 14 months from now, but I like your plan.
-Eppcott

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Timo Paulssen
<timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
> Hello, my dear fellow Lojbanists.
>
>  A complaint on our LiveJournal community page caught my attention. It
>  said, that the Lojbanic Community should move to a web based bulletin
>  board software solution and dump mailing lists.
>  While the opinions on web based bulletin boards are not subject of the
>  discussion I want to start right here, it did make one thing clear to me:
>
>  The Lojbanic Community is hardly exposed to the casual visitor to our
>  "flagship website" at all.
>
>  Free your mind and open up lojban.org. What do you see?
>  You will have to agree to me, that - apart from LiveJournal, which had a
>  bit of activity recently - it looks deserted. The "news" are already
>  more than half a year old!
>  The next thing you see is an explanation of the main features of Lojban,
>  linking to an old Scientific American article.
>  After that you see the LJ blog on which only a few people post sometimes.
>
>  I think, that our wonderful Lojbanic Community is not represented in a
>  sufficient way at all.
>
>  The "help page", that is linked from the main page looks pretty cramped
>  and not really inviting, even though it does mention the mailing list
>  and IRC channel, which - to me - are the main places where the Lojbanic
>  Community is.
>
>  This state has to be remedied and there are plans.
>
>  With this post I am testing the waters for initiation of the grand
>
>   Lojbanistani Restructuration of Website Task Force
>
>  I have composed this Roadmap for LRWTF actions in the future and I
>  welcome and constructive or explosive criticism and will gladly accept
>  "patches" - additions, removals and modifications alike!
>
>  --8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--
>
>   ===============================
>   Road to Success for the LRWTF
>   ===============================
>
>  1) Make it obvious, that the Lojbanic Community is living and breathing.
>
>     By looking at the lojban website you'll get the impression that
>     Lojban has been dead for some time now. Change that!
>
>     a) Expose the Lojbanic IRC channel and the Mailing List to the
>        visitor immediately.
>
>     b) Get into the habit of summarizing recent Lojbanic Community
>        events on a wiki page or some sort of other appropriate medium.
>
>
>  2) Make the Mailing List more accessible.
>
>     While mailing lists are probably the most awesome non-realtime
>     forums in existence currently, it indeed is true, that it's not
>     familiar to the casual websurfer.
>
>     a) Make the mailing list archives easier on the eye.
>
>     b) Make the mailing list archives easier to navigate and figure out.
>
>     c) Find or develop a front-end to the mailing list that looks and
>        behaves like a typical bulletin board software.
>
>
>  3) Make the lojbanic website all about the community!
>
>     Well, I'm not talking about web2.0 community social networking stuff
>     or similar things. However, there should be at least a central
>     "commons" site on the wiki that lists people in a pretty format of
>     some sort, maybe with a profile-ish tabular list - have a field for
>     ni jbocre, icons for "on irc" and "on the mailing list" and all that
>     and maybe others.
>
>
>  4) Remove cruft from the Wiki
>
>     The navigation menu on the left is a bit crowded and if we could
>     come up with a more sensible, clear structure with stronger visual
>     cues for what's important/big/a headline or so, that would be great!
>
>     There's also lots of old and completely outdated pages on the Wiki,
>     which could use some rewriting or removing!
>
>  -->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8-->8--
>
>  For this endeavor to succeed I need at least one person to help me (kick
>  me in the butt as soon as i get lazy, that is!), so please tell me what
>  you think of my plans :)
>
>
>  PS: I apologize for the weird wordings; we've been dealing with
>  political speech in german as well as english lessons recently and I got
>  kind of carried away :)
>   - Timo
>
>


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