[lojban] Re: the "t" in jetnu and a go'i question

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Saturday 09 January 2010 01:45:41 Luke Bergen wrote:
> First question:
> I was practicing my lojban the other day when I realized that sometimes I
> pronounce the "t" as kind of a short stop in the vowel before.  A good word
> for describing this is "jetnu".
> Is this acceptable?  http://www.filedropper.com/jetnu1_1
> Or am I being a lazy english speaker and should really say it like:
> http://www.filedropper.com/jetnu2

That brings up a web page, and I don't see where to download the file. I think 
it is acceptable to do this:
1. say [e]
2. make a dental stop
3. open the back of the nose, keeping the teeth stopped
4. open the tongue at the teeth
5. say [u].
If you release the [t] before starting the [n], that's okay too, but if you 
release the [b] before starting the [m], you may be misheard as "jubyme".

> Second question:
> I think I've asked this before but I don't remember ever getting a
> consistent answer.  If I say {mi klama ta .i go'i fe lo zarci} is it
> believed that I am going to "there which is a store" or "there and also a
> store (separate things)" or "a store (the {ta} has been replaced by {lo
> zarci})"?  Or is it something else entirely.

"ta" has been replaced by "lo zarci". The two sentences together are 
equivalent to "mi klama ta .i mi klama lo zarci". ("fe" in the second 
sentence has no effect.)

Pierre

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