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[lojban] Re: mass-uploading?

Crap, that was supposed to go directly to Robin.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of something, as I'm not certain that you are.

There are actually three lessons on Smart.fm for the items:

The all-inclusive lesson, which is to contain all the items:Âhttp://smart.fm/goals/179543
The place-structure lesson, which to contain the bare gismu:Âhttp://smart.fm/goals/179606
And the sumti lesson, which is to contain the gismu sumti:Âhttp://smart.fm/goals/179607

So, when you do the uploading, I ask that you please upload the appropriate items to the other two lessons as well.

Also, do you want the third (part of speech) and fourth (.mp3 filename) columns when I send you the list back? I've used the conventions of calling gismu "Phrase" (E) and gismu sumti "Noun" (N) in order to make it easier to separate them from each other for inclusion into the other lesson they respectively go into. If not, I can easily delete those columns from the document.


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
Erm. ÂSorry, sorting it means that you have no easy way to figure
out which stuff I added. ÂMy bad.

http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu.tsv

I'll re-sort it when I upload.

This used the google doc as a starting point and filled in anything
that was blank.

-Robin

On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu_sorted.tsv
>
> That's sorted by frequency of usage, so you don't spend a bunch of
> time learning random crap.
>
> Now, what about the cmavo?
>
> -Robin
>
> On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:56:46PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > Â ÂSounds good to me.
> >
> > Â ÂOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> > Â Â<[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > Â Â ÂOK, but it sounded like you'd have to manually copy and paste
> > Â Â Âwhatever I do, which is a horrible waste of effort.
> >
> > Â Â ÂSince it's all just going to drive my script anyways, I think it
> > Â Â Âwould be better if you just edit what I come up with directly, and
> > Â Â Âsend it back.
> > Â Â Â-Robin
> > Â Â ÂOn Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > Â Â Â> Honestly, I'd much rather edit the items BEFORE they are uploaded
> > Â Â Â> to Smart.fm, because that would be easier and much less time
> > Â Â Â> consuming.
> > Â Â Â>
> > Â Â Â> I doubt you've ever tried to edit an item on Smart.fm, so take my
> > Â Â Â> word for it that it is at least five times as difficult to edit an
> > Â Â Â> item after being uploaded than it is to double-check the items in
> > Â Â Â> a document beforehand- which as far as I'm concerned is the main
> > Â Â Â> reason for the Google doc.
> > Â Â Â>
> > Â Â Â> If you can give me the gismu sumti, and some time to double check
> > Â Â Â> the list so that we won't need to worry about editing the items
> > Â Â Â> after the upload, I can fix up the Google doc to be exactly what
> > Â Â Â> your script needs, with all the needed information and formatting.
> > Â Â Â>
> > Â Â Â> On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell <[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > Â Â Â> > That would be my site, and those would be my scripts, and the sound
> > Â Â Â> > uploads via API are *still* broken:
> > Â Â Â> > [3]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > Â Â Â> >
> > Â Â Â> > There's a workaround, though; give me a day or so and I'll have a
> > Â Â Â> > complete upload done with good-enough text, which y'all can then
> > Â Â Â> > edit to your heart's content (since I'm told people can be allowed
> > Â Â Â> > to edit each other's items now).
> > Â Â Â> >
> > Â Â Â> > Anybody who wants to edit the results should send me their
> > Â Â Â[4]smart.fm
> > Â Â Â> > userid.
> > Â Â Â> >
> > Â Â Â> > -Robin
> > Â Â Â> >
> > Â Â Â> > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > Â Â Â> >> Â ÂOkay, a little Google search and I found the following
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Âsite:ï[1][5]http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM,
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Âwhich has two Ruby scripts specifically for mass uploading
> > Â Â Âitems.
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â ÂOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones
> > Â Â Â<[2][6]eyeonus@gmail.com>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Âwrote:
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â ÂOkay, but what about uploading the items themselves? As far as
> > Â Â ÂI know
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Âthey haven't even done that bit yet.
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â ÂOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â<[3][7]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â ÂOn Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Timo Paulssen
> > Â Â Âwrote:
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â> [4][8]smart.fm already offers an interface that a script
> > Â Â Âcan access,
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Âthe
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â> website itself. With the right tools, it should be
> > Â Â Âpossible to
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â> mass-upload the valsi definitions as well as the sounds
> > Â Â Âwithout
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â> the [5][9]smart.fm folks having to expose any other kind
> > Â Â Âof API to
> > Â Â Â> >> us.
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â ÂI
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â> dunno if rlp knows how to best do that, though.
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â ÂThe sound uploads via API are broken:
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â[6][10]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â ÂI suppose I could use the HTTP based upload instead of the
> > Â Â Â> >> multipart
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Âupload; just makes the script less useful to other people.
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â-Robin
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â--
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â ÂThey say: ï"The first AIs will be built by the military as
> > Â Â Â> >> weapons."
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â ÂAnd I'm ïthinking: ï"Does it even occur to you to try for
> > Â Â Âsomething
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Âother ïthan ïthe default ïoutcome?" ïSee
> > Â Â Â> >> [7][11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â[8][12]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â Â Â[9][13]http://www.lojban.org/
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> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
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> > Â Â Â> >> References
> > Â Â Â> >>
> > Â Â Â> >> Â ÂVisible links
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â1.
> > Â Â Â[17]http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â2. mailto:[18]eyeonus@gmail.com
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â3. mailto:[19]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â4. [20]http://smart.fm/
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â5. [21]http://smart.fm/
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â6. [22]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â7. [23]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â8. [24]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > Â Â Â> >> Â Â9. [25]http://www.lojban.org/
> > Â Â Â> >> Â 10. mailto:[26]lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > Â Â Â> >> Â 11. [27]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > Â Â Â> >> Â 12. mailto:[28]secretary@lojban.org
> > Â Â Â> >
> > Â Â Â> > --
> > Â Â Â> > They say: Â"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
> > Â Â Â> > And I'm Âthinking: Â"Does it even occur to you to try for something
> > Â Â Â> > other Âthan Âthe default Âoutcome?" ÂSee
> > Â Â Â[29]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â Â Â> > [30]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
> > Â Â Â[31]http://www.lojban.org/
> > Â Â Â> >
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> > Â Â Â> >
> > Â Â Â>
> > Â Â Â>
> > Â Â Â> --
> > Â Â Â> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
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> >
> > Â Â Â--
> > Â Â ÂThey say: Â"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
> > Â Â ÂAnd I'm Âthinking: Â"Does it even occur to you to try for something
> > Â Â Âother Âthan Âthe default Âoutcome?" ÂSee [38]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â Â Â[39]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
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> >
> > References
> >
> > Â ÂVisible links
> > Â Â1. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > Â Â2. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > Â Â3. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > Â Â4. http://smart.fm/
> > Â Â5. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > Â Â6. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com
> > Â Â7. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > Â Â8. http://smart.fm/
> > Â Â9. http://smart.fm/
> > Â 10. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > Â 11. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â 12. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > Â 13. http://www.lojban.org/
> > Â 14. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > Â 15. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > Â 16. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > Â 17. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > Â 18. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com
> > Â 19. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > Â 20. http://smart.fm/
> > Â 21. http://smart.fm/
> > Â 22. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > Â 23. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â 24. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > Â 25. http://www.lojban.org/
> > Â 26. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > Â 27. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > Â 28. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > Â 29. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â 30. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > Â 31. http://www.lojban.org/
> > Â 32. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > Â 33. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > Â 34. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > Â 35. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > Â 36. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > Â 37. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > Â 38. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > Â 39. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > Â 40. http://www.lojban.org/
> > Â 41. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > Â 42. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > Â 43. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
>
> --
> They say: Â"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
> And I'm Âthinking: Â"Does it even occur to you to try for something
> other Âthan Âthe default Âoutcome?" ÂSee http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
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