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Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo)



I'm not sure where this thread started or what filjvo are but ...

Stela Selckiku wrote:
And you forgot to mention zan- and mal-!

Yeah, those are good ones!

I'm wondering what other gismu could be similarly productive.  Here
are some ideas, of varying quality, with examples:

banli (bal, ba'i), za'e "balbra", banli zei barda, grandly large.
bredi (red, bre), za'e "klabre", klama zei bredi, ready to go.
...

Not all of those are really all that productive.  But in trying to
think of some I did notice some patterns.

At one time, my plan for the dictionary was to take individual words and build families of 2-place lujvo around them, kinda like building a thesaurus, but without necessarily having the words already there. I would in fact have used an English thesaurus as PART of the source, because it shows a breakdown of related concepts. Come up with lujvo to express the fine distinctions of the family of words for an English thesaurus entry, and then add others for other distinctions you can see just as part of making those words, and you quickly grow the vocabulry. Furthermore, all the place structures tend to be similar, and the toughest part of making new Lojban words has always been figuring out what the place structure should be.

One is emotion words, it's easy to tack them onto an action to also
show how the actor felt about the action, like putting xer- (xenru) on
something to show it was done regretfully or putting gek- or gei-
(gleki) to show it was done happily.

How about just having a set of gismu and lujvo to cover all the emotions expressed by the attitudinals, including some of those expressed as compound attitudinals, with some fine distinctions we don't typically make in English because they pop up naturally in lojban, say, with the ro'V modifiers. One can easily imagine there could be a couple hundred emotion lujvo, all with essentially the same place structure (which is my idea of "easy lujvo").

Colors are another area. Pink, rose, aqua, mauve, sepia. Lots of obscure English color words, and a raft of obscure Lojban color lujvo could be just as useful.

Words for a variety of different academic fields and subjects - like all the "ologies" of English.

If this were done, then the families of lujvo based off particular words would tend to emerge naturally as people saw what was useful for making the distinctions.

lojbab

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