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Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo)



sorry, I made a mess of that message.

Maybe nelci was not a good choice for me to make an example with.  Also, yes, I'm always confusing tanru and lujvo.  Sorry about that.

> And "zmanei" does not mean "ko'a zmadu lo ka ce'u
> nelci ko'e", so it's not an example of the kind of -zma/-mau we were
> talking about.


I didn't think it did.  I assume it means {ko'e zmadu ko'i lo ka ko'a nelci ce'u}.

my two cents (and I'm probably glico biased)... I like e.g. {tcebarda}.  I think it seems right that if I want to say "tom is very stupid when it comes to girls" I can say {la tam cu tcebebna tu'a lo ninmu}.  If I break this lujvo apart into a tanru it still makes sense given the bridi tail.  If it were {la tam cu bebnytce tu'a lo ninmu} then breaking it up into a tanru would yield {la tam cu bebna be tu'a lo ninmu be'o mutce}.  It seems like making the {tce} a suffix wouldn't be useful in most cases for adding more sumti places.

2010/10/1 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> sorry to break into English but my lojban isn't good enough yet.
> If I'm understanding the conversation correctly, the  discussion between you
> and selkik is whether it should be tcebroda or brodytce.

Right, for a lujvo with the meaning "ko'a mutce lo ka ce'u broda ko'e ko'i ...".

> Should a similar
> question be asked about rai, nel/nei, mle, etc...

For traji, and zmadu, yes, I brought them up because they are similar.
If by "mle" you mean "mli" (milxe), then yes, I think they should
follow the same pattern, and my argument was that nobody proposes
using zmadu or traji (in the intended sense) as prefixes.

I'm not sure what nel/nei is doing here since it's a completely
different thing. And "zmanei" does not mean "ko'a zmadu lo ka ce'u
nelci ko'e", so it's not an example of the kind of -zma/-mau we were
talking about.

> It seems like there are
> many tanru that I could see going either way.  Is that a beautiful type-of
> tree or is that beautiful in a tree kind of way?

You are now talking about tanru, yes?

> Am I superlative type-of
> fond of... or am I a fond kind of superlative about...?

What are either of those supposed to mean? That you are the person
that mosts likes something, or that some thing is the thing you like
the most?

> I think that the CLL talks about tanru/lujvo being reflexive vs not.

Do you mean symmetric? Reflexive is something else.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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