Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo)

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Friday 01 October 2010 17:53:34 Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I must have gotten mixed up from reading the CLL's algorithm for turning
> > a tanru into a lujvo.  For those of us not well-versed enough, what are
> > the main arguments for/against tcebroda vs brodytce?  If a lujvo is
> > defined and not necessarily built with a rigid rule-set from it's
> > component gismu, then tcebroda vs brodytce is ultimately a question of
> > preference right?
>
> We're discussing preferences, yes. My preference is for being as
> systematic as possible, so:
>
> zmadu fi lo ka broda -> rodmau
> mleca fi lo ka broda -> rodme'a
> traji lo ka broda -> rodrai
> mutce lo ka broda -> rodytce
> milxe lo ka broda -> rodmli
> cenba lo ka broda -> rodycne
> zenba lo ka broda -> rodze'a
> jdika lo ka broda -> rodjdika
>
> and probably some more I'm forgetting.
>
> I'll leave the argument for "tcebroda" to those who prefer it. I don't
> find too convincing any appeals to English wording sounding better one
> way or the other, or to tanru..

I say "mutce broda", so "tcebroda".

> If you prefer "tcebroda" then presumably you should also prefer
> "zmabroda" and "rairbroda", or if not why not?

If "broda" is intransitive, it doesn't make much difference. However, if it is 
transitive, it can make a difference. For instance, mi neizma la bil. lo 
frambesi (I like raspberries more than Bill does) .i mi zmanei lo frambesi lo 
clazme (I like raspberries more than cucumbers).

> A similar discrepancy I have with those who prefer prefix sim- to
> suffix -si'u for reciprocals.

lo girzu cu tavysi'u .iku'i mi simtavla do

mu'omi'e .pier.
-- 
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.

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