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Re: The Fifty United States, etc.
Well, here's my detailed critique. BTW, this is not to undercut your effort
in actually doing the work -- it's much easier to correct something like
this than to do it in the first place. (Ditto for the German placenames,
Erik.)
> united states iunaityd steits
iuNAItyd. steits. Remember that "y" syllables,
like "[rlmn]" ones, are skipped in figuring penultimate stress.
> washington dc UAcin,tn diCIS
I don't like this "diCIS" much. Either follow English pronunciation
with "diSIS.", or else use "dycys.", using Lojban letter words.
>
> alabama alybamas
elybemas, per Brian Gottlieb's list (henceforth BG)
> montgomery mantGAmeris
mantgamyris.
> birmingham BRminxam
> mobile mobil
> alaska aleskas
.yleskas. (BG)
> juneau dzunos
djunos.
> anchorage ANkoridz
ENkoridj.
> fairbanks ferbanks
feirbenks.
> arizona arisonas
erizonas. (BG)
> phoenix finyks
> tuscon tusan
> tempe tempes
> arkansas ARknsas
> little rock LItl,rak
> california kalifornias
kelifornias. (BG)
> sacramento sakramentos
sekrymentos. (BG modified)
> san francisco sanfransiskos
senfrensiskos. (BG)
sanfransiskos. (Spanish)
> los angeles losANdzylys [spanish: losANxeles]
losENdjylys.
> colorado kolorados
kyl,r,ados.
> denver denvr
> boulder boldr
> pueblo pueblos
> connecticut konEtikyt
kn,Etikit.
> hartford xartfrd
> bridgeport bridzport
bridjport.
> new haven nuxevn
nuxeivn. (Your version sounds like "New Heaven"
!)
> delaware dely,uer
> dover dovr
> wilmington UILmin,tn
> florida FLOridas
flarydas. [Spanish: FLOridas.]
> tallahassee talyxasis
telyxasis. (BG)
> jacksonville DZAKsnvil
djek,sn,vil. (BG modified; no stress mark needed
)
> miami mai,iamis
mai,emis.
> tampa tampas
tempas. (BG)
> orlando orlandos
orlendos. (BG)
> georgia djordjas
> atlanta atlantas
etLANtys. (BG)
> savannah syvanas
syvanys. (BG)
> hawaii xyvai'is
> honolulu xanylulus
> idaho aidyxos
> boise boisis
> illinois ilyNOIS
> springfield sprinfild
> chicago cikagos
> indiana indi,ianas
> indianapolis indi,n,Apolis
indi,n,Epolis. (BG)
> gary garis
geris.
> fort wayne fort,ue,n
Overkill, I think: "fort,uen." The English syllable
"way" is difficult in Lojban: the natural spelling is "uei", but that turns
out to mean "ue,i" because Lojban doesn't have triphthongs.
> iowa AIo,uas
> des moines deMOIN
dymoin.
> kansas kansas [!]
kensys. (BG)
> topeka topikas
topikys. (BG)
> wichita UItcitas
> kentucky kentukis
kenTYkis. (BG modified)
> frankfurt frankfrt
frenkfrt.
> louisville LUy,vil
LUy,vl (BG)
This leads naturally to telling of a fiendish trap. Ask your victim,
"How do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky, {LUys,vl} or
{LUy,vl}?" The victim will indignantly answer "{LUy,vl}", at which
point you sweetly inform him/her that "the capital of Kentucky is
pronounced {frankfrt.}" I once caught a native Kentuckian with this!
> louisiana lu,uisi,anas
luzi,ENys. (that's how they pronounce it there!)
> baton rouge batnRUZ
betnRUJ.
> new orleans nu,orLINS [or nu,or,lyns]
> maine mein
> augusta auGYStys
.aGYStys. (BG)
> portland portlynd
> bangor bangr
bengr. (BG)
> maryland merylynd
> annapolis aNApolis
.eNEpylis.
> baltimore BALtimor
I say "boltymor.", but the natives say "bolt,myr.".
> massachusetts masyTCUsyts
mesyTCUsyts
> boston bas,tn
> michigan micygn
> lansing lensin
> detroit diTROIT
> minnesota minesotas
> saint paul seintPAL
> minneapolis mini,Apolis
mini,epylis. (no stress mark needed)
> duluth duLUT
dyLUT. (BG)
> mississippi misisipis
> jackson dzak,sn
djek,sn.
> missouri misuris
miZURys. (local shibboleth)
> jefferson city DZEfr,sn sitis
DJEF,r,sn. sitis.
> saint louis seintlu,is
> montana montanas
mantenas. (BG)
> helena xelinas
> billings bilins
> nebraska nebraskas
nybreskas. (BG modified)
> lincoln lin,kn
> omaha Omaxas
> nevada nevadas
nyvadas.
> carson city kar,sn sitis
> las vegas lesvegas
lasveigas.
> new hampshire nuxamcr
nuxamp,cr. (I think the locals pronounce the "p")
> concord kankrd
> manchester MANtces,tr
MENtces,tr.
> new jersey nudzersis
nudjerzis.
> trenton trenton [!]
tren,tn.
> newark nu,uark
nu,rk (I was born there)
> new mexico nuMEKsikos
> santa fe santaFES
sentyFEIS. (BG modified)
> albuquerque ALbykerkis
.ELby,kr,kis.
> new york nu,IORK
nuIORK (no comma needed)
> albany albynis
olbynis. (local pronunciation, first syllable
is "awl".
> buffalo BYfylos
> rochester RAtces,tr
> syracuse sirykius
sirykiuz.
> binghamton BINxam,tn
BIN,m,tn. (The "h" is silent.)
> north carolina nortkarolainas
Invalid, contains vowel+"lai". "nortkerlainas."
> raleigh rales
rolis. (local shibboleth: "rawlee").
> charlotte carlyt
> north dakota nortdakotas
nortdykotas.
> bismark bismark [!]
bizmark.
> fargo fargos
> ohio oxaios
o'ai,os.
> columbus koLYMbys
> cleveland klivlynd
> cincinnati sinsinatis (sinsemilla, anybody?)
sinsinetis.
> oklahoma oklyxomas
okly'omas.
> oklahoma city oklyxomasitis
okly'omasitis.
> tulsa tulsas
tylsas.
> oregon ORegan
.orygan.
> salem seilym
> portland portlynd
> eugene iuDZIN
.iuDJIN.
> pennsylvania pen,sl,veinias
> harrisburg XArisbrg
> philadelphia filyDELfi,as
no change (but natives say "fyLYFia")
> pittsburgh pitsbrg
> rhode island rodailynd
> providence PRAvydns
> south carolina sautkarolainas
sautkerlainas.
> columbia koLYMbi,as
koLYMbi,ys.
> south dakota sautdakotas
sautdykotas.
> pierre pi,IER
> sioux falls suFALS
suFALZ.
> tennessee tenySIS
> nashville nacvil
necvil.
> memphis memfis
> texas teksas
tekses.
> austin aus,tn
.as,tn.
> houston xius,tn
I think ".ius,tn" is better.
> dallas dalys
delys. (BG)
> utah iutas
> salt lake city saltleiksitis
> vermont verMANT
vrMANT.
> montpelier mantPEli,er
mantPIlier (local shibboleth)
> burlington BURlin,tn
br,lin,tn.
> virginia virdzinias
vrdjinias.
> richmond ritcmynd
> norfolk norfok
> washington UAcin,tn
> olympia oLIMpi,as
> seattle si,A,tl
siEtl (BG)
> west virginia uestvirdzinias
uest. vrdjinias. (clearly separated in speech)
> charleston TCAR,l,stn
TCARLstn (BG)
> wisconsin uiskansin
> madison madysn
medy,sn
> milwaukee miluakis
> wyoming ui,omin
> cheyenne cai,AN
cai,EN. (BG)
> casper kaspr
kespr.
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