"manner" places

[Logical Language Group <lojbab@access.digex.net>]

>> Again, it seems like you are comparing plise and narju (a contrast that
>> makes much more sense in Lojban than in English, since narju is not
>> necessarily a fruit) %^)
>
>Even without comparing with anything, all the "manner" places seem
>like clumsy appendices to the basic concept, and make learning gismu
>more difficult.

Depends on what you mean by "learning gismu".  If you mean "learning
place structures" - we did not put a high priority on having memorizable
place structures - that was put in the category of "too-hard problem".

If you mean "learning to use a gismu", I don't think it is true.  A
'manner' place means that there is a "how?" question implicit in the
concept.  An "in what manner" question seems to make sense for cpedu in
pretty much all circumstances, because requests are OFTEN conveyed in
manners other than by voice.  But for dunda, it seems pretty much that
the type of thing given, and the nature of the donor and donatee
determine the manner of giving.

And plise and narju could have "in manner" places as well, but I have no
idea what they would mean.

lojbab