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Re: Knowledge & Belief
- To: John Cowan <cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG>
- Subject: Re: Knowledge & Belief
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <shoulson@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
- Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:51:32 -0500 (EST)
- In-reply-to: <199712311714.MAA08861@cs.columbia.edu> (message from Steven Belknap on Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:13:23 -0600)
- Reply-to: "Mark E. Shoulson" <shoulson@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
- Sender: Lojban list <LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET>
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:13:23 -0600
>From: Steven Belknap <sbelknap@UIC.EDU>
>
><la stivn djuno le du'u la xorxes djuno le du'u la lojbab klama le zarci
>kei fo da>
>
>"Steven knows that Jorge knows that Lojbab goes to the store."
>
>The above statement is always false, which considerably limits its utility.
>I am asserting that it is not possible to directly know that some else
>knows something.
That means that "djuno" can *never* be used (truthfully) except with a
first-person x1. That REALLY limits *its* utility! Can that be right?
~mark