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Lojban analogies and kennings
- Subject: Lojban analogies and kennings
- From: Ron Hale-Evans <rwhe@apocalypse.org>
- Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:32:00 -0700
Greetings from a semilurker...
A few people on the list know of my artgame Kennexions. If you don't,
you can learn more about it here:
<http://www.apocalypse.org/~rwhe/kennexions.html>
Lojban is a central part of the game, but I find my Lojban is
deficient for some of the things I want to do. That's why I'm
delurking; I'm hoping for help with some basic questions. But first
some background:
A central part of Kennexions is forming "kennings," which are an
ancient Norse poetic form based on analogies. Example:
E1. psychology : mind :: biology : body
E2. Psychology is to the mind as biology is to the body.
E3. psychology = mind biology
E2 above is a restatement of E1 in ordinary English. E3 shows a
kenning ("mind biology") which is a poetic restatement of the word
"psychology."
You may have noticed that "mind biology" resembles a tanru. Because
kennings can easily be expressed by tanru (as can the Aztec poetic
form of "difrasismo," but that's another story), and because Lojban
is formal enough to be parsed by computer, I have chosen Lojban as
the basis for my "game language."
Right now, I can generate kennings automatically (with a Perl script)
from tabular data such as Aleister Crowley's book _777_, a rich
source for analogies in the domain of mythology. I can also manually
build geometrical kenning game structures in Fluidiom (formerly
Struck) -- see <http://www.beautifulcode.nl/>; it turns out that
kenning analogies map prettily onto tetrahedra. Eventually I would
like to have a Perl script that can parse Lojban, then spit out a
file to be rendered in Fluidiom.
As a small step, I've been trying to figure out how to write
analogies in Lojban. Assuming that "biology" is "ji'eske" and
"psychology" is "menske" (please correct my lujvo), then could the
above be rendered thus?
L1. menske : menli :: ji'eske : xadni
L2. .i ke menske tai menli ke'e tai ke ji'eske tai xadni ke'e
L3. .i menske du menli ji'eske
I'm pretty sure L3 is ungrammatical; what's wrong with it? And how
about L2? (I know that L1 is completely ungrammatical; it's just
shorthand.)
Thanks in advance for everybody's help.
Ron H-E
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