Re: [lojban] So, wait til you feel a cold no-nose

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

la pycyn cusku di'e

> Grammatically, X modifies Y just means that X+Y => Z, that together they 
> form a new grammatical unit, whose meaning is a regular function of the 
> meanings of X and Y (the function
> determined by the rule cited for the analysis).
> Neither is changed -- or both are -- but the one does not change the other.

Your definition is symmetrical in X and Y. Grammatical
modification is not, if X modifies Y then usually it
is not the case that Y modifies X. Z has the same grammatical
character as Y, whereas X could be something quite different.

> The places of {jmina} after the agent place look about right.  It's easy to 
> add an agent in lojban; how do you drop one?

{zi'o} is used to drop a place, but I avoid it as much as
I can, it doesn't feel right. Isn't {sumji} the agentless
{jmina}?

co'o mi'e xorxes


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