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Re: [lojban] kau
- To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [lojban] kau
- From: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:21:11 -0500 (EST)
- In-reply-to: <01020716053301.09960@neofelis> from Pierre Abbat at "Feb 7, 2001 03:58:37 pm"
Pierre Abbat scripsit:
> Is this right?:
>
> mi djuno ledu'u makau klama le zarci
> I know who goes to the store (it could be nobody)
>
> mi djuno ledu'u dakau klama le zarci
> Someone goes to the store, and I know who it is
>
> mi djuno ledu'u la djan. kau klama le zarci
> I know that it is John who goes to the store
>
> mi na djuno ledu'u la djan. kau klama le zarci
> I don't know that it is John who goes to the store, i.e.
> either I don't know who it is, or I do know but it isn't John.
Only the first of these should have -kau:
mi djuno le du'u da klama le zarci
There is some x1 such that I know that x1 goes to the store.
mi djuno ledu'u la djan. klama le zarci
I know that John goes to the store (which differs only in emphasis/focus
from "...that it was John who..."
mi na djuno le du'u la djan. klama le zarci
It is false that I know that John goes to the store
(contradictory negation: could be that I don't know who, it isn't
John, John goes somewhere else, etc.)
--
John Cowan cowan@ccil.org
One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore
--Douglas Hofstadter
- References:
- kau
- From: Pierre Abbat <phma@oltronics.net>