Re: [lojban] RE: imaginary worlds and the death of God

["michael helsem" <graywyvern@hotmail.com>]

> From: pycyn@aol.com
    li'o
> OK, so all true identities are necessary and, since all predications can be
> reduced to identities,

Not in Lojban, DOI PENDO.

> all truths are necessary truths.  Hence, there is only
> one possible world.

In Lojban that IS a logical contradiction...

> All events therefore are determined (could not have been
> otherwise than they are),

I'm not even sure how to SAY "determined" & "free will" in Lojban
(surely not with forms of ZIFRE?)...

> so there is no free will -- even for God (if there
> is one, which there now is not, by definition)

Several, actually: take your pick between JEGVO, DADJO, BUDJO or
the CEVNI of your choice. Or you can LIJDA BEFIZI'O...

-- and so no moral
> responsibility nor any just punishment

MARDE FUZME is sayable & remains for me to be argued out of...
"Justice" is less lojbanical & i think should be the subject
of a future thread... SFASA exists, & so do XAMGU BEFIDA BE'O
SFASA & XLALI BEFIDA BE'O SFASA, like it or not (PE'ICU'I).

   li'o
> (And most of our talk is utter nonsense.
    li'o

FU'EKA'U LE GLICO NUNCASNU DI'I CFIPU JOI BEBNA FU'O

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