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Re: [lojban] imperatives & scope (was: RE: Predicate logic and childhood.)
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In a message dated 5/6/2001 8:32:14 AM Central Daylight Time, pycyn@aol.com
writes:
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> >> It does NOT mean (f):
>>
>> f. Make it the case that you make a note of my telephone number.
>> f'. Make it the case that you make a note of a telephone number of mine.
>>
>> -- for these would be satisfied if you wrote down any old number but then
>> took steps to make sure that the phone company assigned this number to me.>
>>
>>
>
>
> Again, I would use prenex but I suspect that this is common enough that we
> need a new convention here, as we have already in various other world
> shiftings, about the referent of definite descriptions therein. since that
> problem is not completely worked out yet, ... >
>
In this case however {leca} ought to be enough -- "my current number"
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/6/2001 8:32:14 AM Central Daylight Time, pycyn@aol.com
<BR>writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It does NOT mean (f):
<BR>
<BR> f. Make it the case that you make a note of my telephone number.
<BR> f'. Make it the case that you make a note of a telephone number of mine.
<BR>
<BR>-- for these would be satisfied if you wrote down any old number but then
<BR>took steps to make sure that the phone company assigned this number to me.>
<BR>
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<BR>Again, I would use prenex but I suspect that this is common enough that we
<BR>need a new convention here, as we have already in various other world
<BR>shiftings, about the referent of definite descriptions therein. since that
<BR>problem is not completely worked out yet, ... >
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<BR>
<BR>In this case however {leca} ought to be enough -- "my current number"
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:48:08 EDT
Subject: Re: [lojban] imperatives & scope (was: RE: Predicate logic and childhood.)
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In a message dated 5/6/2001 8:32:14 AM Central Daylight Time, pycyn@aol.com
writes:
>
> >> It does NOT mean (f):
>>
>> f. Make it the case that you make a note of my telephone number.
>> f'. Make it the case that you make a note of a telephone number of mine.
>>
>> -- for these would be satisfied if you wrote down any old number but then
>> took steps to make sure that the phone company assigned this number to me.>
>>
>>
>
> Again, I would use prenex but I suspect that this is common enough that we
> need a new convention here, as we have already in various other world
> shiftings, about the referent of definite descriptions therein. since that
> problem is not completely worked out yet, ...
>
In this case however {leca} ought to be enough -- "my current number"
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/6/2001 8:32:14 AM Central Daylight Time, pycyn@aol.com
<BR>writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It does NOT mean (f):
<BR>
<BR> f. Make it the case that you make a note of my telephone number.
<BR> f'. Make it the case that you make a note of a telephone number of mine.
<BR>
<BR>-- for these would be satisfied if you wrote down any old number but then
<BR>took steps to make sure that the phone company assigned this number to me.>
<BR>
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>Again, I would use prenex but I suspect that this is common enough that we
<BR>need a new convention here, as we have already in various other world
<BR>shiftings, about the referent of definite descriptions therein. since that
<BR>problem is not completely worked out yet, ...
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>In this case however {leca} ought to be enough -- "my current number"
<BR></FONT></HTML>
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