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Re: [lojban] New to lojban, any suggestions?



On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 07:07:00PM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/13/2001 4:18:38 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org writes:
> 
> 
> > It was an example.  You're clear on the concept, yes?
> > 
> > You said that my claim that there is functionality in Linux that Win*
> > doesn't support was 'unlikely'.  I gave you an example.
> > 
> > It's not a matter of "I don't know how to do it".  It's a matter of
> > "It's impossible without altering the OS or programming in machine
> > language to get around the OS".
> > 
> > Counter-example.  
> 
> OK.  Thank you, for adding the useful information -- what I asked for -- that 
> it genuinely is impossible.  I won't ask to see the proof, since I probably 
> could not follow the details of the systems anyhow.  
> 
> Now for the deeper question: does this mean that MS can't do something that 
> Linux can.  That is, is the function which MS can't compute an in=> out 
> function or one used in the internal operations of Linux?  If the latter, 
> then no matter how hard it makes step-by-step emulation, it is ultimately not 
> a shortcoming of MS, if it can accomplish anything that Linux can using 
> another line of operation (abaci have lousy TM emulators, but still calculate 
> all the same functions).  And, of course, it may make a difference in 
> efficiency of calculation as well.  On the other hand, if it is an external 
> function that Linux can and MS can't calculate, that is a serious defect in 
> MS and worth some putdown points (unless there is a coounter case that MS can 
> and Linux can't compute).  

It's neither, really.  It's a function of their security models, which
are rather different, and their means of program execution.

> I thought there were Linux emulators for Windows as well as conversely.

As far as I know, there is the latter but not the former.

-Robin

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