je (was: crdlus. critique)

[Invent Yourself <xod@sixgirls.org>]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Rob Speer wrote:

>   Person: PICK UP A BIG RED BLOCK.
>   la prenu: ko lafti da poi barda ke xunre bliku
>
> {barda je xunre}. In fact, since I believe that {je} isn't used nearly
> enough, leading to the slightly malglico habit of using tanru for
> adjectives (remember, {blanu je zdani} is much more specific than
> {blanu zdani}), I'd go as far as {barda je xunre je bliku}.


Remember that je is symmetrical. I would agree with barda je xunre bliku,
but not barda je xunre je bliku.


>   Computer: THE BLUE PYRAMID AND THE BLUE BLOCK.
>   la skami: .i le blanu jipkubli .e le blanu kurkubli
>
> Same here. I'd say {blanu je jipkubli}, unless the computer is
> deliberately trying to seem friendlier with informal usage.


It is more of a jipkubli than a blanu, pe'i. I wouldn't use a je here.
je-mania!



> The tanru-for-adjective problem is one that shows up in many people's
> Lojban, including my own. I'm sure that what I have of Flatland includes
> several instances of je-phobia.


But let's leave it out where it adds no meaning; it's another syllable.



>   Computer interrupting: SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE WORD "STEEPLE".
>   .i la skami: ta'a .u'uki'a. mi na te smuni lo'u masyji'o le'u
>
> Nice. This is very Lojbanic. I wouldn't have thought of using {mi na te
> smuni}.


.ie carmi nelci



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