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Re: [lojban] translation exercise...

At 02:59 PM 8/27/02 -0400, Rob Speer wrote:

First of all, I really like the idea of translating this song. I could
start singing it (to people who already know I'm strange) and then
they'd have to ask what the heck language that was.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:32:25AM -0700, Allan Bailey wrote:
> le selsa'a cu na sisti
"The song does not end".

For "_This_ is the song that does not end", you would do something like
"dei me le selsa'a poi na sisti". (At first I was going to put "ti", but
"this" doesn't refer to anything being indicated, but the actual words
being sung.)


To get the rhythm to fit
dei selsa'a nalsisti


> ri ranji ije ranji noi mi pendo

"ri ranji ije ranji" means "It persists, and something persists". For
"it persists and persists", you would use "ri ranji _gi'e_ ranji".


You need an .i at the beginning.

.i doi pendo ri ranji
or if the vocative is unneeded
.i ri ci'iroi ranji
Your version below is OK too, but I think mine scans better for the first two lines. 

Now I've started thinking about how to shuffle words around to make it

actually fit the tune. Here's one possible version:

dei na'e sisti selsa'a
(This is a not-ceasing song.)
.ije ri ranji sai za'a
(And it continues [intense!], I observe.)
  [The "my friend" part of the original song is really just there to
  make it rhyme, so "za'a" can be used for the same purpose.]
.i lo prenu co'a sanga sy .i ra na djuno ru
(Some people start singing it. They don't know that.)
  ["la'ede'u" would be more correct than "ru", but there's no way in
  heck that will fit.]
  [".i lo" will have to be crammed onto the same note, or the rhythm
  changed slightly.]
.i caku py ci'iroi sanga ki'u le du'u
(Now they sing it an infinite number of times because...)

Here's the song with the stress and all pauses marked:

dei NA'e SISti SELsa'A     [SELsa'A is horrible pronunciation. I claim
                            artistic license.]
.iJE ri RANji SAI za'A
.ilo PREnu CO'a SANga SY .i RA na DJUno RU
.i CAku PY. ci'Iroi SANga KI'u LE du'U      [The strange accent on "le
                                             du'u" is allowed.]

Again, I like the idea! .ui!
--
mu'o mi'e rab.spir.






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