Re: [lojban] carolingianosity

[John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>]

Nick Nicholas scripsit:

> ... and that leads me to a question. {la nanmu poi barda} is Mr Great 
> Man, and {la nanmu ku poi barda} is the great Mr Man. I gather {la 
> poi barda ku'o nanmu} is also {la nanmu ku poi barda}? And with 
> cmene, I can't do this trick, can I --- I can't distinguish between 
> *Charles Great {la karolus poi barda} and the great Charles *{la 
> karolus ku poi barda} --- let alone *{la poi barda karolus}.

Correct, there is no way to make a name in Lojban that is only partly
meaningful.   If I had to do it, I would say la me la karolus. barda
or something of the sort.  This fellow is interesting: in English, his
name is completely opaque, in French it's partly opaque and partly not,
but in German his name *is* la karolus. poi barda:  Karl der Grosse.
Of course, in Germany he's a German emperor, whereas in France (and
a fortiori in Anglophonia) he's a French emperor.

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