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[lojban] Re: tu'o usage



In a message dated 9/21/2002 9:26:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:

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I don't remember it being settled and decided (by whom?) the way
you want. For me {ro} is non-importing.

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Actually, on 15-03-02 you set forth (again) your system, acknowledging that it was aberrant, and claiming for it a simplicity that it turned out not to have when actually applied or worked out theoretically. That aside you acknowledged the correctness -- within Lojban of the importing system.  Your  {ro} is just {ro ni'u}, which is rarely useful and on those occasions is easily reached by falling back to standard Logic notation (your claim that ordinary {ro} can be reached in the same way from {ro ni'u} is true, but hardly an efficient suggestion.  Of course, we still disagree about whether "every" -- you probably say "all" -- really has existential import.)

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So for you {ga broda ginai broda} can be false for selected broda?
For me it's a tautology.
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I'm not sure that I understand this, but I suppose you mean {lo brode ga broda ginai brode} can be false.  Yes, it can, if there are no brode.  But, note, {naku le brode ga broda ginai brode} is false as well, so tautological status is not affected -- the sentence is merely ill-formed at a low level.

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