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Re: [lojban] jvoste

At 08:38 PM 10/15/02 +0100, And Rosta wrote:

Are the lujvo in NORALUJV.txt drawn from usage, or were they thought up by the
compiler of the list?


Three different answers:
The ones that could be autogenerated (se/te/ve lujvo) may or may not have usage.
The other ones that have definitions are the ones that Nick defined in 1993-4 as part of writing the lujvo paper that forms the basis for CLL jvojva. These include some that were actually used as is, and some that he remade in accordance with the rules (and he wasn't all that self-consistent with the rules he was inventing).
Almost all the ones without definition either have been used, or have been proposed as an alternate in a comment on someone's usage in a text.
There is a number and some codes in the leftmost columns. The number is the frequency which the word appeared. If there are plus signs, then the word appeared in several forms, and this is probably the "optimal form" which may not be the form that was actually used; add the numbers to get a frequency. Because my text cruncher did not eliminate quoted texts in LLG postings, many texts are counted multiple times because they were quoted for commenting purposes. 


Are the lujvo in NORALUJV.tx well-formed by the standard criteria of
appositeness and seljvajvohood?
They are well formed by lujvo making rules. No one has performed any analysis of the undefined words. Nora found that Nick often did not optimally follow the rules he proposed, but she did not reach any conclusions on how the words SHOULD be defined (because she found that she learned the rules better as she went along, and after getting halfway through the list, looked at the beginning and found that much of what she had done was garbage - she never had the time to start over, and her annotations on what she had done were never typed in). 


What processes are in place for sifting usage for new lujvo?


None.


Should we each be making the effort to document our lujvo usage?


That would be nice.


Is anyone studying rafsi preferences?


No.

lojbab

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