pycyn@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/18/2002 5:27:39 AM Central Daylight Time, lojban-out@lojban.org writes:<<One possibility would be to concentrate on the perceived loss of ego in such states of consciousness. "nalse'i menli" perhaps?>>Well yes, except for the major schools which claim that what they achieve is maximization of the ego -- "I embrace the universe" cases. Maybe "loss of the false ego" but even this is not universal among such schools (and, of course, we may be talking about two or twenty different things, though, since Stace and [draw blank though I took classes from him, as I did from Stace], the view seems to have come back to "the same experiences through different lenses" school.)
Well in that case we need to coin different lujvo for the states referred to by different schools according to how _they_ see the sates, then we can start having nice arguments like
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