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RE: [lojban] Loglan
At 07:08 PM 12/1/02 +0000, And Rosta wrote:
Are there actually any active Loglanists interested in such a thing?
"Are there actually any active Loglanists" is the proper question.
I myself was formerly in favour of rapprochement, if only so newcomers
don't get posed the choice of Loglan vs Lojban. But if Loglan is now
nigh-on extinct, there seems no point in rapprochement, though
I would favour more actively applying the name Loglan to Lojban,
to ensure that people seeking Loglan (e.g. by googling) find their way
to modern Loglan, i.e. Lojban. I suppose what I'm saying is that if
there isn't enough of a thriving TLI Loglan community to actually have
rapprochement with, we should go the other way and more volubly declare Lojban
to be Loglan.
There is not and really has NEVER been a "thriving TLI Loglan community" in
the sense that we would use that phrase with Lojban.
On the other hand, JCB sold over the years probably 2000-3000 copies of
Loglan 1 in its various versions (the initial print run of a thousand for
the 3rd edition sold out in less than a year, since he spent the money to
advertise in Scientific American, and people remembered the 1960
article). There are thus a relatively enormous (compared to either of the
two "active" communities) number of what Steven Belknap called "sleeper
cells" or rather "sleeper individuals" out there many of whom are waiting
for what JCB never delivered, and we are close to delivering: a "completed"
language that they can learn without fear of the powers that be changing it
yet again for purposes of "improvement" (a symptom that has killed so many
artificial languages and their communities in the last hundred years that
you would think that we'd learn something by now).
lojbab
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