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Re: [lojban] Official Tengwar!
At 08:43 PM 12/6/02 +1100, Nick Nicholas wrote:
> At 04:22 AM 12/5/02 -0800, Theodore Reed wrote:
>> Which Tengwar orthography? I recall there being like 5 different
>> versions, three of which are elrond's. When I made the LojbanTengwar
>> yudit input mode (available if anyone wants it), I used one of
>> elrond's
>> with a few minor mods.
>
> The one in CLL is the officially baselined non-standard %^)
Which means Raymond, of course.
Where ideas come from does not matter. I disagree with his politics as
much as anyone, and did not much approve of putting Tengwar in CLL, since
it seemed frivolous to me (not being a Tolkien or Tengwar aficionado).
OK, I admit this is a wholly frivolous thing to bring up (in either
sense); but if anyone is going to have the nerve to say "Elrond's
schemes are illicit, because CLL gives Raymond's", then we either say
"CLL can't be official about stuff it describes as unofficial, please
get a grip"
But it is official; just not standard (or is that vice versa %^). If we
had known better, John could have described it as "proposed" or
"experimental", which people seem to accept as explicitly meaning that it
has a lower standing (to the point where And argues that he wants to
eliminate the distinction - so we can't win).
--- or we pass an addendum into the CLL at that point,
saying "there are other Tengwar schemes out there, by people actually
still with us as opposed to blogging about the right for infants to
bear arms" :-) .
Stop after the comma, and that sounds like a useful byfy decision.
Note that backward compatibility was mostly retained with Raymond's
scheme in the consonants. At least, mostly. And I think they are all
mutually intelligible.
I have no idea on the merits of the various proposals; I know nothing about
Tengwar other than that it is pretty squiggles.
lojbab
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