[lojban] Re: emotions

[Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>]

At 03:40 PM 5/25/03 -0700, Jorge "Llambías" wrote:
> la djorden cusku di'e
> > [...]
> > > > Gismu, lujvo and fu'ivla
> > > > are just different types of brivla; none are more privledged than
> > > > the others.
> > >
> > > If that were so, then why all the fuss when a new gismu is proposed,
> > > but no fuss when a new lujvo or fu'ivla is proposed?
> >
> > Because the gismu list is frozen, and there's no reason to prefer
> > a gismu rather than another brivla.
>
> And yet people do seem to prefer gismu. They are used much more frequently
> than other brivla.

That's because the gismu list is handy, and there is no equivalently handy 
dictionary of the other words.  They might also have used LogFlash or some 
other tool to memorize them.  You use what you know.

> > If you ask why it is frozen (as you no doubt will do); it would not
> > be smart to allow open season on gismu:  the knee-jerk creation of
> > gismu for things which can be other brivla damage our ability to
> > increase rafsi for lujvo in the future (and in the process betrays
> > a lack of understanding about the purpose of the different types
> > of brivla).
>
> Hmm... {parji} doesn't seem to limit any increase in future rafsi
> availability, because par, paj, pai, pa'i are all already taken.

In which case, there is even less reason to give it a gismu rather than a 
rafsi fu'ivla form.

> In any case, the best way to oppose these words is to provide
> good canonical alternatives, as Nick said.

Nora suggested that no noncanonical word should be allowed to be added to 
the jbovlaste UNLESS a canonical (perhaps longer) alternative has already 
been added.

lojbab

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