[lojban] Re: da is not what xod thinks it is (was Re: use of ko'a)

[Invent Yourself <xod@thestonecutters.net>]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Jordan DeLong wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 05:24:59PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 07:01:19PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote:
> > > > When I said "you would only use it", I didn't mean "you can never
> > > > use it in any other way." Unbound ko'a is grammatical, but
> > > > stylistically I think it's malglico.
> > >
> > > I disagree.
> > >
> > >     le mi mamta mamta cu mutce nelci le karce .i ko'a ji'a nelci le
> > >     ladru
> > >
> > > I don't see that anyone's going to have much confusion there, and
> > > since I presumably intend to deliver a bunch more sentences
> > > involving le mi mamta mamta, it seems a reasonable thing to do.
> >
> >
> > This is not the most convincing use of unbound ko'a, for reasons which
> > have already been discovered.
> >
> > Suppose we want to introduce a new variable, without claiming existence,
> > and which lasts longer than da does (gets reset after every bridi, they
> > say!) but by position, without altering the bridi structure simply to
> > expose the sumti for goiery?
>
> da can't get reset because it never is set...because it never refers
> to a specific thing.
>
> da has scope that can end sub-bridi (in a subsentence rule, etc).
> Saying that it "resets" suggests a misunderstanding of da.


Thanks for agreeing with me.


> > le mi mamta mamta cu nelci le karce be fi ko'a .i ku'i ko'a ckape .i ko
> > stidi ma mi
>
> ko'a ki'a




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