Re: [lojban] Re: Re: le duX

["And Rosta" <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk>]

ctefan:
> And Rosta wrote:
>
> > In that case, though, I should repose my question again, to something
more
> > like the following.
> >
> > bu'a  :  lo   :    da
> > go'a  :  --   :    ra
> > broda :  --   :    ke'a
> > co'e  : tu'o1 :    zo'e
> > ????1 : tu'o2 :    zi'o
> > ????2 :  le   :    ????3
> >
> > ????1 would substitute for "du" in "le du". ????3 would serve the
function
> > that ledu-users use ledu for. ????2 would be what I had formerly thought
> > co'e to be.
>
> What does the middle line mean? As I understood it the difference between
> {le} and {lo} is the following:
>
> da poi broda >> lo broda
> da voi broda >> le broda

{le} is specific/referential, {lo} is for quantified variables. {lo broda}
is equivalent to {da poi broda}, but {le} is not equivalent to {da voi
broda}; that spurious equivalence is an old misanalysis. {le broda}
would be equivalent to {????3 voi broda}, where the "????3" expresses
the specificity and the "voi" expresses that the description is not
asserted.

> Could somebody explain why {broda} corresponds to {ke'a}?

broda-series gismu are assignable 'names' like ko'a-series are -- {cei
broda}
is analogous to {goi ke'a}.

--And.